GADD.................save your money on the lang
tough call. The lang DVD is quite impressive. What he has managed to do with singles and doubles is awesome. Gadd..... well, nuff said. Depends on you. If you want more rock chops.... or if you want a lesson in real life drumming.....
good luck with your choice.
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GADD.................save your money on the lang
You're referring to the Gadd ADAA double DVD right?
If you want technique stuff to practice, the Lang is the obvious choice.
If you wants music, the Gadd is the obvious choice.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 14, 2004 02:49 PM: Message edited by: Derek DeFields ]</font>
I'll stick my neck out on this one. If you want to an instructional video that breaks out coordinated drumset independence in great depth, get the Lang. You can also watch it and be very entertained and inspired.
The things I liked about the Gadd vid was Marotta and Gadd's playing, AWA the career retrospective. Awesome historical footage. It really gave me an understanding of how much demand he was in and why people wanted him on their record.
I think Vinnie was very considerate and gracious and didn't lay waste to everybody on the stage. He realized it was not a night about him and played conservative and tasteful.
The Gadd was great to watch once. I'll probably pull it out 6 mos from now. The Lang could go in your DVD player by your kit and provide you with endless hours of practice routines.
Both videos are cool from a motivational/ inspirational standpoint.
Gadd... All the way...
Both are great. I believe amazon.com is selling both of them as a package deal for around $99. An early christmas gift is in the making. [img]wink.gif[/img]
Gadd & Lang
-Ed
If it's about chops, Lang.
If it's about music, Gadd.
Since it is about the music;
"It's "Gadda' be Gadd".
Just because he's grooving, it
does not mean he is not tech-
nically killing.
Gadd is a technical genius.
It's just not obvious. I get
so much out of watching him.
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<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 14, 2004 05:53 PM: Message edited by: peter c ]</font>
Great response.
Ed - priceless. Those last 2 were friggin hil-AIRious.
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Absolutely. Gadd totally pioneered and revolutionised things like those cowbell grooves, i.e mozambique, the paradiddle licks and a lot of the linear chops that so many drummers use, from weckl to vinnie to chambers. If it wasn't for gadd, I wonder if or when all those things would have been created and by who.Originally posted by peter c:
Gadd is a technical genius.
It's just not obvious.
<font color="#a62a2a"><font size="1">[ December 14, 2004 05:53 PM: Message edited by: peter c ]</font></font>
I would put Gadd over Lang any time.
I NEED to hear Lang play on pop/rock/country Tunes before i can say whether i like this guy or not. E.g hear Lang play on James Taylor Tune called October Road.
Gadd is a technique monster!
Listen and Look at his Snare work. The snaredrum is like a piano for him. He can get 20 different sounds out of it. Listen to October Road on the Gadd Tribute, man it's just incredible. He does however show how Richie Hayward had a huge influence on him, but he does it in a way to interpret tastefully into his own Gadd'ism.
As Peter very well said. Gadd is very good at hiding his technique, it's not viewable by the public it is musically hidden within the music. I think Tom Scott talks about that too. When you play the tune from the board, it sounds simple and tastefull, but if you only put the drumpart through the speakers, you hear complex rythm patterns you never imagined would work on such a tune. From a analyzing point of view. Watching Lang, and listening to Lang makes more sense, it's prejudgeable it's all served ready to comp over to your own drumset. If you sit down and analyze Steve's work on the Gadd Tribute on the Tune October Road, it's a whole different story. I'm still watching this over and over and have the same thoughts as Anthony Jackson. ( He comes with a original drumpart for the tune ) It is something you won't think is the first solution to the task of laying down a groove on the tune. Gadds solution is great, but HOW the idea behind the groove came to life and i am mostly talking about the intro Theme and the verse, is something completely different. If Marc Atkinson were granted the task to decipher the Gadd Code, it would take much longer, maybe a eternal ongoing study compared to the Unreel Drum Project. To many drummers i meet at clubs wants to talk about Lang, Virg and Colaiuta. It's great to talk about, but talking about Gadd and his playing is something we never do. Maybe it's the paradox behind the gadd'ism. It radiates simplicity and "Space" for the music. But a closer look reveals a complex labyrinth of ideas for each Bar on a chart! Odd ideas for pop tunes, like "50 ways to leave your lover" makes me puzzled how this guy pulls it through and people behind the mixer acknowledging his Ideas. They FIT! but in theoradical terms, it won't!
A wise HOD'er has a signature written like. A Real technician is shown by his intuitive way to hide his sources ( correct me if i'm wrong ). And Steve is one of a kind on that aspect.
Buy the ADAA.. if you listen [img]wink.gif[/img] close enough. the music is enjoyable, but pay attention to gadd. There's just something about it...
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 14, 2004 06:29 PM: Message edited by: Klemme ]</font>
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